Should Killcam be available only after the game?

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16.03.2017, 11:37

I hate killcam. Even if someone camp in bush, maps are so small that you can find it easily.
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16.03.2017, 11:43

Something is coming...
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16.03.2017, 11:56

As of now I am ok with the red dots on the minimap and with killcam,they do help prevent camping.
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16.03.2017, 16:39

Chrno:I hate killcam. Even if someone camp in bush, maps are so small that you can find it easily.


You must be joking, most of the maps are way too huge for 8v8.

Literally Trash:

You can already use sound to pick out snipers.


You could if everyone who uses snipers didn't have suppressors
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16.03.2017, 18:03

joewillburn:Something is coming...

Sharknado 5: Terror in Manhattan
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16.03.2017, 20:15

-Corvo Attano-:
Sharknado 5: Terror in Manhattan

no THE HUNT FOR THE CAMPER VOL.1
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17.03.2017, 07:20

-Corvo Attano-:I think the killcam should be removed as well, but instead of completely removing it, how about a system as in Planetside 2?


How does their system work?
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17.03.2017, 07:25

Sleeves:

How does their system work?

Instead of showing your killer's position, it pans over into their general direction, minimap does the same thing
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17.03.2017, 15:03

-Corvo Attano-:
Instead of showing your killer's position, it pans over into their general direction, minimap does the same thing

Ah, I see.

I'm still not a fan of killcams, though. If the main concern is about camping snipers then maybe a new feature could be added. Perhaps... A glint of a scope?
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18.03.2017, 03:51

The killcam only damages people who camp or cheat.

If you're a player who naturally moves across the map, or holds a point moving back and forth on it, you do not have any disadvantage from the enemy seeing your kill position.
Even if you're a sniper, you can do 1-2 kills, and move to another position. No disadvantage at all.
Only if you camp in one spot and shoot your enemies in the back from a bush or a roof or whatever, it damages you. And it should damage you if you camp. Because that's cheap and doesn't show any skill.
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18.03.2017, 20:58

Dauerfeuer Ungeheuer:The killcam only damages people who camp or cheat.

If you're a player who naturally moves across the map, or holds a point moving back and forth on it, you do not have any disadvantage from the enemy seeing your kill position.
Even if you're a sniper, you can do 1-2 kills, and move to another position. No disadvantage at all.
Only if you camp in one spot and shoot your enemies in the back from a bush or a roof or whatever, it damages you. And it should damage you if you camp. Because that's cheap and doesn't show any skill.

I don't care about campers. Camping and sniping are fair and honest ways to play the game.
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19.03.2017, 06:39

Sleeves:I don't care about campers. Camping and sniping are fair and honest ways to play the game.

Fair doesn't mean good.
No killcam would mean an one-sided counter.
Bushcamps can counter actively moving enemies by being covered from their eyes and shooting with silenced sniper rifles.
But actively moving enemies cannot counter bushcamping enemies because they do not know where they are.
Killcam is the little element that makes bushcamping counterable.
Take Vector as an example. How many bushes are there, that cover you completely? 6 if not more. You can sit there all day, moving between those 6 bushes and snipe everyone. And if they start to shoot bushes, you kill them.
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19.03.2017, 14:13

+1 Never wanted killcam.
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20.03.2017, 21:06

Simple solution to all of this: 2 modes. Hardcore and and arcade PvP. I HATE killcams and the low grass. You know what I hate even more? SNIPERS. That doesn't ruin my experience, though. At one point, a key feature in Survarium was its camouflage and stealth system. Sure, camping sucks, but it's a viable strategy. Holding a position can turn the tide in battle. Every move has a counter-move, people. Flank the sniper, or rush, cover to cover with your squad while suppressing. Solo players need not complain, as arcade mode should still have killcams, so you can still bait yourself and sneak up on the sniper in a next life.

A good sniper would know to change positions after 1-2-3 kills anyways.
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23.03.2017, 04:52

I m all for removing red dots, if you have the satelite thingy it should would like wallhack but with shorter radius than now.

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23.03.2017, 10:50

Why does everyone here complain about snipers/campers? It is part of the game.

Everybody hates campers, but then why do I see very experienced players sit tight in dark corners waiting in high traffic areas to pick players off? Is not that the same thing? They know that they have line of sight advatage and stay there...
I have been called a camper after I sat FOR ONE SECOND in a window and killed an experienced player. That player put me on his ignore list...
I will have you know that I run (RUN) around the map nearly always. that is RUN. I have speed mods on boots, pants and vest and use Tornado drink thingie a LOT. and I am at least 'average'.

So please stop the BS on camping/sniping. It is part of the game!
or VG should remove sniper rifles completely.

BTW I hate VG for giving a penalty 'when not being active'. It imposes a type of gameplay not consistent with available weapons and gear....

I still encounter players that do their daily part (e.g. three kills with pistol) and LEAVE, of stay AFK and do not give a F about the penalty. or players that think each gamemode is TDM....I am talking about T9 players here, not newbies....

yes we want real ife recoil, but no sirry no snipers/campers, but yes to extremely pedantic ADAD ing....

killcam YES, but a correct one that shows exactly what happened
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23.03.2017, 11:16

XxNM17xX:
A good sniper would know to change positions after 1-2-3 kills anyways.

exactly...campers will be located quickly and handled appropriately :-)
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23.03.2017, 11:29

Killcam as it is right now is worthless.

Argument 1: It helps me understand how I got killed! Good against macros and cheaters!
No it doesn't. Killcam doesn't show recoil. Battleye is the one's supposed to do anti-cheat, not an arcade in-game mechanic. Besides, what is there to explain? You got killed, end of story.

Argument 2: It helps me kill campers!
If you got killed by someone who had a better position than you, that's your problem. VG has already made camping the most stupid thing you can do in this game. Grass is lower, lighting is brighter, ultra low settings will make sure you stick out at a distance of 2 kilometers. Reddots will help you out if you have bad hearing. Movement speed makes Ussain Bolt look like an amateur, and being stationary/crouching gives absolutely no advantage over ADAD spam. Why would one stay in one place with all those disadvantages?

Argument 3: I like Call of Duty!
Can't argue with that.

Not to mention that Killcam completely destroys all immersion in a "hardcore shooter" (Joe in 2013)
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23.03.2017, 11:45

Every good player on killcam look like cheater. So, it leaves bad impression from game. Checkmate.
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27.03.2017, 07:17

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