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09.01.2017, 14:03

trouble_every_day:Drexler53, Pain was one of the players most consistently reported before Battleeye was implemented.
He was always found to be clean as far as we can tell.

clean? Hahaha really? I think it could not be so obvious, this "player" follows enemies through the wall until he points before seeing them as seen in the replay and clearly sees the aimbot and still say it is clean, perhaps gives money? Because it has no other explanation, several players have reported with evidence that it is using cheat but still do not ban. Why?
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09.01.2017, 14:52

There's no such thing as paying for the game and staying safe, if Pain is to be found hacking ingame, Battleye will ban him immediately.
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09.01.2017, 15:32

riad55:There's no such thing as paying for the game and staying safe, if Pain is to be found hacking ingame, Battleye will ban him immediately.

Battleye is checking injects in the game process and is looking for blacklisted software while game is running. Something more?
You are sure, that every cheating software is on Battleye black list?
What if someone is using macro from mouse software or something like Asus sonic radar? It would be blocked? I don't know, what do you think of it, but for me it's a cheat (giving advantage).

I'm not saying that someone is cheating now. I just don't understand, why are you so sure, that Battleye cannot be bypassed somehow?
I remember, when Jeremy Clarkson stated that there is no possibility to take his money from banking account if he will show his account number. After that someone made a payment (500 pounds) for charity from his account.
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09.01.2017, 16:28

Tanatloc: Jeremy Clarkson

I know what you mean, but also that dude is really not a good example of competence or awareness on cyber-security issues :D

I've not seen a radar software that actually helps. They advertise it, and show cool promotional videos, but in reality they are a mess, you're way better off using your ears and watching the minimap.
Macros do exist, but are not as effective as one many think. Recoil here has a random component, not like some FPS where it's always the exact same pattern which can be exactly countered by prerecorded mousemovement. That wouldn't work. And it's not comparable to the actual advantage a real hack would give.

What is meant by "real" hack or cheat here are aimbots and wallhack overlays. Those give a substantial immideate advantage even to already skilled players. The thing with those is, since BE was introduced, there was one case of a program that got far enough to actually trigger BE to ban about 40 people, I'm not sure what it did, if anything. There just were no programs since then that even possibly worked.
But false haccusations keep coming in daily regardless. That is why we can say to a very high certainty that there are no hacks available even if there are haccusations all the time.

Nothing is 100% secure, but the chances that any single report is correct are statisticly immesurably close to zero. At the moment, you can be sure to a moral certainty that this one guy who killed you really weirdly was not wallhacking or aimbotting. You're better off swallowing your ego, and considering instead how you got outsmarted, and try to learn from that, so next time you can do it to him.
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09.01.2017, 21:26

nametag47 Ѭ:
I know what you mean, but also that dude is really not a good example of competence or awareness on cyber-security issues :D

I've not seen a radar software that actually helps. They advertise it, and show cool promotional videos, but in reality they are a mess, you're way better off using your ears and watching the minimap.
Macros do exist, but are not as effective as one many think. Recoil here has a random component, not like some FPS where it's always the exact same pattern which can be exactly countered by prerecorded mousemovement. That wouldn't work. And it's not comparable to the actual advantage a real hack would give.

What is meant by "real" hack or cheat here are aimbots and wallhack overlays. Those give a substantial immideate advantage even to already skilled players. The thing with those is, since BE was introduced, there was one case of a program that got far enough to actually trigger BE to ban about 40 people, I'm not sure what it did, if anything. There just were no programs since then that even possibly worked.
But false haccusations keep coming in daily regardless. That is why we can say to a very high certainty that there are no hacks available even if there are haccusations all the time.

Nothing is 100% secure, but the chances that any single report is correct are statisticly immesurably close to zero. At the moment, you can be sure to a moral certainty that this one guy who killed you really weirdly was not wallhacking or aimbotting. You're better off swallowing your ego, and considering instead how you got outsmarted, and try to learn from that, so next time you can do it to him.


did you have a near death expirience or just won in lottery?
100% AGREED!
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09.01.2017, 21:38

yeah first time when he acted as a pro admin :))))))))))))))))))))
keep it up
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09.01.2017, 21:56

I don't know if you guys misunderstood me or what. I said what I've said since BE was out: no working hacks that anyone knows of.
da_capo:first time

Huh. Now I'm concerned that I'm doin something wrong.. But belated happy New Years to you too =}
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09.01.2017, 22:14

nametag47 Ѭ:I don't know if you guys misunderstood me or what. I said what I've said since BE was out: no working hacks that anyone knows of.

Huh. Now I'm concerned that I'm doin something wrong.. But belated happy New Years to you too =}

Its not really about what u said - witch it true ofc. it is both content and how u said it. these 2 made ur post professional
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09.01.2017, 22:52

da_capo:
Its not really about what u said - witch it true ofc. it is both content and how u said it. these 2 made ur post professional

If you think any mod is ever unprofessional, please contact Joe, he will look into it. Otherwise, let's get back to discussing substance, not style =}
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10.01.2017, 02:28

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13.01.2017, 23:35

what do you think guys? looks like wallhack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XDUnk5Pt4

[БОЕЦ] Freesson - match: https://survarium.pro/matches/6880941
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14.01.2017, 00:49

K3lvin:what do you think guys? looks like wallhack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XDUnk5Pt4

[БОЕЦ] Freesson - match: https://survarium.pro/matches/6880941

Fishy sure, but I'd still say he just saw you on minimap and tried to get lucky. If he used wallhack, wouldn't he have aimed at you even through the wall, instead of next to you?

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14.01.2017, 03:01

Tsjuder:
If he used wallhack, wouldn't he have aimed at you even through the wall, instead of next to you?


Is what he did, watch the video again. First, he wall shooting where i was, after that 'oops' he waited when i showed out to shot again.
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14.01.2017, 10:16

K3lvin:

Is what he did, watch the video again. First, he wall shooting where i was, after that 'oops' he waited when i showed out to shot again.

hes a very good and old player. Imo he just checked obvious places for enemies like most vets do and the he shot u again when u came into view. it looks a bit dodgy but this is what most vets to. thing is, one fishy moment like this proves nothing but if it repeats several times throughout the match, then we have a problem. Ill check the match and come back with results. Imo hes not cheating
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14.01.2017, 10:25

K3lvin:what do you think guys? looks like wallhack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XDUnk5Pt4

[БОЕЦ] Freesson - match: https://survarium.pro/matches/6880941

Well, maybe delay still has some meaning? You have almost 250 while this rus guy has only 50. So it's ~2s advantage.
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14.01.2017, 11:16

Ventori:
Well, maybe delay still has some meaning? You have almost 250 while this rus guy has only 50. So it's ~2s advantage.

0.2 s
Prefix mili means 1/1000
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14.01.2017, 11:37

clean
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14.01.2017, 12:00

Tanatloc:
0.2 s
Prefix mili means 1/1000

Tanatloc:
0.2 s
Prefix mili means 1/1000

Only in ideal scenario.
Because of cpu/graphic+monitor+other delays it is higher.

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14.01.2017, 12:15

Tanatloc:
0.2 s
Prefix mili means 1/1000

Yeah, sry man bad.
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14.01.2017, 12:15

Midori Fuse:

Only in ideal scenario.
Because of cpu/graphic+monitor+other delays it is higher.

I was just referring to his 2s, which obviously was wrong. I don't believe, that someone can have 2 seconds advantage, when both of players have hardware and internet connection in good condition.
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