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07.02.2020, 23:14

MKRYDR wrote:i did a while back have a friend that made and sold cheats not post them free thats how ik they exsist cos he could make them undetectable and keeps them updated.


There was a guy a few months ago who said something like this, was it you? He said he had a friend who could develop a cheat for Survarium, the post probably can still be found on the forum. He never came back with an update of his friend's progress...

MKRYDR wrote:just today there was a guy who killed me when i was in the smoke the smoke was there before i died and was in the kill cam but he stopped turned his aim to me and killed me when there was no way of seeing me.

What did I say in my post above?

"Most of the hackusations come from bad match balance or smoke bugs in the killcam."

There are 3 known bugs due to the smoke+killcam at the moment, as far as I know. They are:
- In the killcam the smoke will disappear because it's rendered in real time. No real way of fixing it.
- Sometimes because of the killcam, you will see no smoke after you respawn because the killcam restarted the smoke. So you will have no smoke, but for somebody who didn't die during the 30 seconds the smoke was there, he will still be seeing smoke.
- And the other way around: you will see smoke after you respawn, but for somebody who didn't die for 30 seconds while the smoke was on the screen, he will see no smoke (correctly).

MKRYDR wrote:i do report and have recently provided evidence, we'll see what happens.
If you report people and they are not getting banned, they were not cheating. There are stats and people have reported me over 100 times in the last 30 days, and I know of legit players who have been reported 300+ in the last 30 days...
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08.02.2020, 11:20

no this was not me, you can go back and check. the friend i had told me how he uses cheat development to make money and how he knows other people who do the same, i dont know what games he makes for.


i saw what you said, did you see what i said? there was smoke when i was alive, and there was smoke on the kill cam so this means the smoke was there the whole time when he stoped running to aim in and kill me,
that replay has been sent for furthur analysis.
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08.02.2020, 12:30

MKRYDR wrote:there was smoke when i was alive, and there was smoke on the kill cam so this means the smoke was there the whole time when he stoped running to aim in and kill me,

You saw correct smoke when alive and correct smoke in the killcam, but the guy might have not had it on his screen, that's what I'm saying. You can't hackusate so easily when there's smoke involved. I play with a friend and sometimes he'll ask me if I had smoke on my screen when I kill him and I say no, and sometimes he'll kill me and I'll ask him the same because I had smoke on my screen and he didn't.
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08.02.2020, 18:07

Chandrian:
You saw correct smoke when alive and correct smoke in the killcam, but the guy might have not had it on his screen, that's what I'm saying. You can't hackusate so easily when there's smoke involved. I play with a friend and sometimes he'll ask me if I had smoke on my screen when I kill him and I say no, and sometimes he'll kill me and I'll ask him the same because I had smoke on my screen and he didn't.


i thought it was said that bug is fixed?... so it's not the smoke bug lives on, thats good to know
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08.02.2020, 18:22

@MKRYDR

its simple: the players u think they hack or using aimbot or any other kind of cheats, THEY DONT. How is it possible that i am able to baserape on köln map 78-8? These guys couldnt even get me with spawn protection... U wanna hear why? Survarium is full of people who dont come from "gaming scene". The honest truth is that many people in Survarium play really really bad. Its the truth. U guys keep searching for excuses instead of asking yourself what u can improve. But of course its much easier to call the better players hackers.

Go watch some pro videos of CS, frag movies of top players in youtube. Go watch gameplay from shroud in pubg or CS. People can have talent in gaming and are able to react to stuff some others only could dream of.

Today I had a match where a guy complained about my weapon with no recoil. Oh cmon man, u go -recoil on weapon, -recoil on gloves, -recoil in character and move your mouse a bit down while shooting - thats all. Its so funny because recoil in survarium is really weak compared to other games like insurgency sandstorm and its so easy to control it.

Other players dont even hear me coming even if im very closed. Its your own fault if u dont play with headset or even listen to music while playing. I can detect other players location like up to 10 meters when they are running, with a simple 10€ headset, no hacks...

What I see in survarium, sometimes, is beyond reality. I dont even want to talk about Research mode, wich became like unplayable for our clan members because of high elo and what "teammates" we get.
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08.02.2020, 18:59

MKRYDR wrote:i thought it was said that bug is fixed?... so it's not the smoke bug lives on, thats good to know

Now it's a different one because it involves killcam and you won't get it if you have killcam disabled. But the less you or anyone uses smoke, the better.
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08.02.2020, 22:21

I don't believe it's profitable to make paid cheats for this game. Too low playerbase.
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10.02.2020, 06:23

@apfelmu2

i know what the difference between a no lifer and a cheat is, it can be seen.

I too use low recoil setups and damp the recoil with the mouse and i also know and never mentioned the kill cam issues regarding recoil not showing right, and i use decent a headset so also not something that would effect me. All i have been saying is you can't rule out cheaters, no game can, every game has cheaters and most have few due to larg staff teams and income i don't expect Survarium to be as such, i mean VG is indy afterall, and indy companys make the best because they do the best they can which can't be said about com companys.

Edit: I know that audio is as important as visual, so no music, volume at a decent level and ears on alert.

The point is, if so many are complaining about the same thing then maby it's not for use as an excuse, i know all about players complaining about skill, i too have been reported and accused of it, however the number of people complaining about this one issue might mean it go's deeper, cheaters kill games when they get away with it.

I just don't want to see that happen with Survarium i honestly like this game and in my opinion Survarium is the best F2P FPS game out right now, it has a sence of realisim, uses real guns, has a interesting and unique take on post apocoliptic shooters and maps that give off the apocoliptic vibe (if you know what i mean) i would hate to see the game fall because after Survarium there is nothing else that meets all this at this current time.

I played a FPS game before Survarium, maby you'll know it, Black Light Retribution which is now no longer available on PC due to a small player base and to many questionable players that chase "noobs" away shortly after joining and i have seen that happen with a lot of people in Survarium one of which was me and my friends first Survarium friend and a few others i/we played with.
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Chandrian:
Now it's a different one because it involves killcam and you won't get it if you have killcam disabled. But the less you or anyone uses smoke, the better.


I use kill cam because why not, and i don't use smoke it's a waste of space that could be used for something more beneficial, others on the otherhand tend to abuse smoke, there are matches where all you see is smoke clouds like slaughter in vector lab and CNPP cooling towers
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10.02.2020, 19:48

Maybe people tend to abuse smoke because of snipefest on these maps, don't you think?
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11.02.2020, 13:55

Hi,
There are no cheats for survarium.
Those who say this are only bad players.
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11.02.2020, 14:25

Tanatloc:Maybe people tend to abuse smoke because of snipefest on these maps, don't you think?


of all that you got my replay to chandrian...


Hi,
There are no cheats for survarium.
Those who say this are only bad players.


i'm not gonna argue with ignorence.
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11.02.2020, 22:44

I asked that question, because I remember when smoke was disabled. On those maps it was disaster. It was annoying and boring. Barrett campers everywhere.
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01.04.2020, 23:34

Tanatloc:When Pro kills noob, he automatically becomes cheater.

trouble_every_day:I've passed your query to support. I'll post back here if I hear anything.

That's why you don't put them in the same match! I hate being in a match that has players who are way ahead of me, in every aspect, what's the point then having the leveling mechanism and tiering?!? They should make a criterium of at least +-10 LVL between players and tier of at least one higher or lower than opponents during the matchmaking, that's why newbies thinking there are a lot of cheaters in this game! This is really stupid by the devs, I'm really disappointed by the mechanic of the game, it's totally unfair, to play with someone who has 2500+ hours of gameplay and all possible good-fancy gear and mods... Don't get me wrong, I like this game, I really do, but I slowly starting to hate it cuz most of the time I'm losing my nerves when playing with those pros, it's really pain in the ass killing them. The game would be much nicer if devs only started to notice users ideas and suggestions and implement them in the game of course, what's the point of having game discussion thread on the forum then?
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02.04.2020, 07:55

Can someone answer my querry?

Now here's the thing.
I have noticed quite a few times and seen it in my killcam that before I die the enemy who killed me, is aiming exactly at my team mate who cannot be killed because he is behind something solid like a wall or house or an object.

For once I thought maybe he hears footsteps or he has planted a sensor (which i don't see anywhere near his position) so he curiously aims but how could he aim at his exact location so I could rule that out since my team mate was far away and there was no question of hearing any footsteps since I couldn't hear it.

How is this possible?

Unless I get an explanation for this I will never believe that there are no cheats for the game. Don't get me wrong.
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02.04.2020, 15:35

Viren:


At least providing the match ID would go a long way man...
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02.04.2020, 16:35

UnknownPlayer666:

At least providing the match ID would go a long way man...


I can but I dont want to ruin the fun for cheaters atleast not at this time but in return i expect myself and other players to land into matches where there are no cheaters so we dont complain and cheaters also remain happy. Also if vg limits the no of cheaters to 4 in one match and that too 2 at both sides that would be great.

I know this game and us have come a long way so i cannot complain and anywhichways my k/d is already ruined but what im happy about is that i kill the same cheater atleast once in a match even though he has killed me a couple of times.

[PS - Both, VIREN and JUNIOR_STRELOK are my profiles, made a new profile cos im trying to maintain k/d ratio to 1 in the latter profile.]
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07.05.2020, 20:44

cheater name: M4rk0

time stamp: 2:25 (time to the end of match) look closely where I was and where he was and what he did. He started shooting in the window while I was still hidden, he had no idea I was there unless he cheats. He started shooting and after few shots he saw me in the window and of course killed me.

match ID: 14981007

I would appreciate an official statement from devs. Thanks.
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07.05.2020, 22:16

Jeorgeous_SVK:cheater name: M4rk0

time stamp: 2:25 (time to the end of match) look closely where I was and where he was and what he did. He started shooting in the window while I was still hidden, he had no idea I was there unless he cheats. He started shooting and after few shots he saw me in the window and of course killed me.

match ID: 14981007

I would appreciate an official statement from devs. Thanks.

Git gud. ;)
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07.05.2020, 22:22

Jeorgeous_SVK wrote:cheater name: M4rk0

time stamp: 2:25 (time to the end of match) look closely where I was and where he was and what he did. He started shooting in the window while I was still hidden, he had no idea I was there unless he cheats. He started shooting and after few shots he saw me in the window and of course killed me.

match ID: 14981007

I would appreciate an official statement from devs. Thanks.


m4rk0 is clean. Throughout the course of his time in Survarium he has been reported a total of 2667 times, 125 of which were in the last 30 days alone. He has spent 220 days worth of time playing the game. He is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced players in the game.
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07.05.2020, 22:57

joewillburn:

m4rk0 is clean. Throughout the course of his time in Survarium he has been reported a total of 2667 times, 125 of which were in the last 30 days alone. He has spent 220 days worth of time playing the game. He is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced players in the game.


I know he is a good player, played a lot of games with and against him. But this kill with prefire didnt seem legit to me. As I said, replay gave a nice view of prefire and I cant really understand how he can make such a prefire without knowing my exact position. He doesnt seem like a guy who shoots the air and hoping someone gets the shot. I dont believe in coincidence and there is a nice proof that it was prefire. The player, no matter how good he is or how many hours he spent on playing this game, just couldnt have predicted my position so perfectly, there were 2 or 3 places where he could have looked but he looked in the right window and started prefire. He might be clean but you must agree with me that this seemed not legit and hell of a luck or coincidence or whatever.
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