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23.07.2019, 18:23

Someone can explain me why when I shot someone get hit marker and he is still at 100%?
Why after 2 or 3 shot I die when some you have to full ammo and he doesn't die?
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23.07.2019, 19:08

Hit markers and blood are client-side, which means that even if you see them on your game-client, it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage reached the server. When you see this and do not deal damage or the shot doesn't get registered, it means that because of ping you were already dead according to the server.
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24.07.2019, 16:07

Chandrian:Hit markers and blood are client-side, which means that even if you see them on your game-client, it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage reached the server. When you see this and do not deal damage or the shot doesn't get registered, it means that because of ping you were already dead according to the server.


Well I know that I was already dead, but I could understand when it come from a player who have lower ping than mine but why it happen with players who have twice my ping?
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24.07.2019, 18:23

Maybe you're losing packets because of bad internet connection?
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25.07.2019, 03:18

Tanatloc:Maybe you're losing packets because of bad internet connection?

I'm not the only one and in this version it is worst that previously.
And my connection is twice better than previously.
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25.07.2019, 08:21

Who's your ISP?
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25.07.2019, 09:01

William-g:
I'm not the only one and in this version it is worst that previously.
And my connection is twice better than previously.



Something happend to my gaming experience too after latest patch. Suddenly I got really bad for some reason, I barely can kill anyone. Many time when I shoot someone, he's already fallen by someone else. I have lost over 300 elo points after patch.
My connection is Deutche Telekom 100/10 VDSL and connected with cable. Using Asus AC68VG modem with latest updates. Resetting the modem doesn't help. I play on EU and US servers and in EU ping is 35-45 and in US it rises to ~100.
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25.07.2019, 09:07

Lettunen1982, read these and then submit a ticket with the information that they ask: https://support.survarium.com/index.php ... t/Index/35
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25.07.2019, 09:47

Chandrian:Lettunen1982, read these and then submit a ticket with the information that they ask: https://support.survarium.com/index.php ... t/Index/35


But this is the case of a problem on our side, what if the problem come from some where else like the EU server for example.
Ask Braco, I think that he have similar problem with the last patch.
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25.07.2019, 10:23

William-g:

Well I know that I was already dead, but I could understand when it come from a player who have lower ping than mine but why it happen with players who have twice my ping?

ur case against a lower delay enemy is simple: server registers his actions faster then urs. u were dead before shooting. ur hitmarkes is client side, not registered by server
ur case against a very high ping player is simple: server adjusts position of high ping player a bit late, witch means u shoot at a spot where enemy is no longer there. hitmarkers r client side and thats why u get them - u shoot at what u see, but server cannot register those hitmarkes because enemy is not there anymore. thats why players with high ping r immortal if they r always on the move
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25.07.2019, 11:11

da_capo:
ur case against a lower delay enemy is simple: server registers his actions faster then urs. u were dead before shooting. ur hitmarkes is client side, not registered by server
ur case against a very high ping player is simple: server adjusts position of high ping player a bit late, witch means u shoot at a spot where enemy is no longer there. hitmarkers r client side and thats why u get them - u shoot at what u see, but server cannot register those hitmarkes because enemy is not there anymore. thats why players with high ping r immortal if they r always on the move


Well, actually I know that.
I open the topic again because I would like VG to do something about it a specially that in my opinion it is worst and worst. But if I remember VG denied the fact that player with high ping are immortal.
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25.07.2019, 12:08

William-g wrote:
But this is the case of a problem on our side, what if the problem come from some where else like the EU server for example.
Ask Braco, I think that he have similar problem with the last patch.

This is for any case. This would determine if the problem is on your side or if there's something wrong with how the server connects you to the game.
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25.07.2019, 13:22

Chandrian:
This is for any case. This would determine if the problem is on your side or if there's something wrong with how the server connects you to the game.


I have done what was from the link you add to this topic I have done 3 test and send it to support and answer is:

Hi.

Did you has any video with described problem?

С уважением, Служба Поддержки Survarium
Best regards, Survarium Support

As you can see it doesn't help them to determine from where is the problem.

if someone could make video of that it would be really nice.
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25.07.2019, 13:50

William-g:

But if I remember VG denied the fact that player with high ping are immortal.

High ping players r immortal as long as keep moving. the moment they stay still, they r dead
I had some 1vs1 against u and maybe just maybe u dont have the right upgrades on weapons/items. I had the feeling u shouldve won few fights and this makes me believe ur upgrades might not be right
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25.07.2019, 14:14

da_capo:
High ping players r immortal as long as keep moving. the moment they stay still, they r dead
I had some 1vs1 against u and maybe just maybe u dont have the right upgrades on weapons/items. I had the feeling u shouldve won few fights and this makes me believe ur upgrades might not be right


I would say that in the case of our fight skills are also important :) you are much quicker than me.
Also on that weapon my aiming is bad.
But when I touch you I inflict you some damage some even with armor with lower protection than Zubr full ammo and I die.
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25.07.2019, 22:10

Lettunen1982:


Something happend to my gaming experience too after latest patch. Suddenly I got really bad for some reason, I barely can kill anyone. Many time when I shoot someone, he's already fallen by someone else. I have lost over 300 elo points after patch.
My connection is Deutche Telekom 100/10 VDSL and connected with cable. Using Asus AC68VG modem with latest updates. Resetting the modem doesn't help. I play on EU and US servers and in EU ping is 35-45 and in US it rises to ~100.

VDSL is not good for gaming. ;/
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27.07.2019, 10:22

Chandrian:Hit markers and blood are client-side, which means that even if you see them on your game-client, it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage reached the server. When you see this and do not deal damage or the shot doesn't get registered, it means that because of ping you were already dead according to the server.


Then why I sometimes (very rarely tho) have situation that I can hear bullet hitting me and see hit indicator, but my hp doesn't lower?
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27.07.2019, 11:08

Chandrian:Hit markers and blood are client-side, which means that even if you see them on your game-client, it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage reached the server. When you see this and do not deal damage or the shot doesn't get registered, it means that because of ping you were already dead according to the server.

So what you are telling here is that server are bad or that VG isn't able to make the game fair?
Chandrian:Lettunen1982, read these and then submit a ticket with the information that they ask: https://support.survarium.com/index.php ... t/Index/35

Honestly why did you send that link? I have submit a ticket and nothing, now as you can see support ask for video. So what should I record all my game? it is a joke.

If I remember well VG give some delay for some players? if it is the case the delay should be higher.
Or best lock the EU server to RU players who have ping over 100.
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27.07.2019, 13:04

Major Stifmeister wrote:Then why I sometimes (very rarely tho) have situation that I can hear bullet hitting me and see hit indicator, but my hp doesn't lower?

Server recalculates. It has happened to me too and I don't think it's fair, I think that if the guy did damage and I saw it on myself it shouldn't negate it, but that's for the netcode guys to decide.
William-g wrote:So what you are telling here is that server are bad or that VG isn't able to make the game fair?

This happens in all games that have hitmarkers if you're not playing on LAN with 0 ping.
William-g wrote:So what should I record all my game? it is a joke.

No. For example what I do (when I post clips on the forum) is I have an instant replay feature activated, one that is recording all the time without taking up disk space, and with a key combination it can save the last X minutes (in my case I have it set to 1, for good quality and low file size). This option is available on Nvidia and on AMD gpus.
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27.07.2019, 18:02

delay_reduction_mode 2 - try this out.
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