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18.03.2019, 14:49

NoMoreAmmo wrote:The saddest thing is that VG is itself denying the presence of these sw.
I posted this link in the ingame chat and they banned me.
VG is conniving and also imho has interest in cheating sw, if not they wouldn't act as they do.

You cannot say it exists if you don't know that it works. It needs to inject and BattlEye will autoban because it has a blacklist.

Also, no, it's not clean: https://clip2net.com/s/40tBbEy so check that Kaspersky anti-virus that you supposedly have.

You can create a test account and will see that this cheat doesn't work.
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18.03.2019, 14:54

Chandrian:
You cannot say it exists if you don't know that it works. It needs to inject and BattlEye will autoban because it has a blacklist.

Also, no, it's not clean: https://clip2net.com/s/40tBbEy so check that Kaspersky anti-virus that you supposedly have.

You can create a test account and will see that this cheat doesn't work.


They are not real viruses per se.
AV is telling you that this sw is adware or keygen or something similar. Now if you don't know the difference it tells a lot...
My Kaspersky is working fine, thanks.
The sw exists and people are reporting it works, just spend 5 minutes reading what people is writing in the comment area.
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18.03.2019, 15:08

NoMoreAmmo:

They are not real viruses per se.
AV is telling you that this sw is adware or keygen or something similar.
My Kaspersky is working fine, thanks.
The sw exists and people are reporting it works, just spend 5 minutes reading what people is writing in the comment area.


If this is indeed a working cheat, why not a single one of these sites that provide them attach a relevant full sized screenshot from in-game with the latest patch. Instead, we always see this old ass crop from prehistoric times.
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18.03.2019, 15:18

NoMoreAmmo wrote:
They are not real viruses per se.
AV is telling you that this sw is adware or keygen or something similar. Now if you don't know the difference it tells a lot...
My Kaspersky is working fine, thanks.
The sw exists and people are reporting it works, just spend 5 minutes reading what people is writing in the comment area.

Everyone can read this stuff when one man writes all these comments. We recommend you to use this cheat on a virtual OS. If there is no proof (screenshot or video of current version), it's considered spam and the topic can be locked. One can take any virus, archive it and rename it to survarium_cheat and write that this is a cheat and hacks for Survarium.
Tech also says there doesn't seem to be any reason to not trust virustotal where files are checked via hundred of antivirus. But we'll persist with BE.

If you prove it to us with a video on a test account, we'll give you 10,000 gold, video can be posted here. That said, we'll get you an official confirmation by BattlEye in a few hours.

NoMoreAmmo wrote:Listen,
I asked VG to delete my account because I'm disgusted of this situation. Well, in spite of the art. 17 of the GDPR EU 2016/671, VG privacy policy doesn't contemplate data deletion. https://support.survarium.com/index.php ... t-deletion
That's against law.

We talked to our lawyer redarding the account question.

When we were updating the Privacy Policy, we made sure the GDPR requirements are met.

However, we will look further into that.
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18.03.2019, 15:19

UnknownPlayer666:

If this is indeed a working cheat, why not a single one of these sites that provide them attach a relevant full sized screenshot from in-game with the latest patch. Instead, we always see this old ass crop from prehistoric times.

This is one of them. There are many more.
Plus there are entire fora dedicated to bypass Battleye. It requires C++ coding skills, but it can be done.
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18.03.2019, 15:27

I will stand by what I've said: online scanners aren't reliable. They are reporting the file as generic keygen/hack file. This is not a virus per-se.
Kaspersky says the file is clear.
However it is, I just refuse to use such garbage.
It's against the spirit of the game.
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18.03.2019, 15:33

NoMoreAmmo wrote:However it is, I just refuse to use such garbage.
It's against the spirit of the game.

You can't just come here with no video or screenshot proof of the cheat being used in the latest version and say "here guys, here's a link, this is a cheat".
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18.03.2019, 15:37

Kaspersky is not good AntiW at all. I know some top hackers and programmers in real life and they all say - Kaspersky is s**t. Sorry, i know this is out of topic, but
NoMoreAmmo:
Kaspersky says the file is clear.

Chandrian:
with no video or screenshot proof of the cheat
How to proove chyt with screenshot ?
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18.03.2019, 15:39

aZERO77 wrote:How to proove chyt with screenshot ?

Pretty hard actually, can be photoshopped or whatever xD
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18.03.2019, 18:04

NoMoreAmmo wrote:Listen,
I asked VG to delete my account because I'm disgusted of this situation. Well, in spite of the art. 17 of the GDPR EU 2016/671, VG privacy policy doesn't contemplate data deletion. https://support.survarium.com/index.php ... t-deletion
That's against law.

Chandrian wrote:We talked to our lawyer redarding the account question.

When we were updating the Privacy Policy, we made sure the GDPR requirements are met.

However, we will look further into that.

To expand on this, our Privacy Policy says explicitly:

In some cases, deletion of your Account, and therefore Personal Data deletion, is complicated. In these cases, considering the complexity and number of the requests, the period for Personal Data erasure may be extended, but for no longer than two further months, or your Personal Data will be anonymized.
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18.03.2019, 18:22

What sw means? It's a type of cheat?
Antiviruses say often that cracks for applications are Trojans, but they are no threat for user.
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18.03.2019, 18:54

Tanatloc wrote:What sw means?

sw usually stands for software, as far as I know.
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18.03.2019, 19:42

Chandrian:
sw usually stands for software, as far as I know.

Oops. So easy.
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19.03.2019, 07:58

Whether or not B/E identifies known cheating sw and blocks it is not the issue.This is not how people are able to cheat.The hackers are those that turn off B/E and can then use any cheat they want.I know one friend,not on this account, that is a sw programmer.He has turned off his B/E but he doesn't use any cheats and he rarely plays now.So it can be done if you have the knowledge.There's no possible way to prove someone is doing this so it may as well be 1,000,000 gold because you will never see any of it.Having said that I see very little suspicious game play.Most of the "cheating" is poor ping and the results from that.What I see in match and what K/C shows proves its the so called latency that is at fault here.Its beyond bad its almost dishonest.
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19.03.2019, 08:10

Who shot the barman wrote:Whether or not B/E identifies known cheating sw and blocks it is not the issue.This is not how people are able to cheat.The hackers are those that turn off B/E and can then use any cheat they want.I know one friend,not on this account, that is a sw programmer.He has turned off his B/E but he doesn't use any cheats and he rarely plays now.So it can be done if you have the knowledge.There's no possible way to prove someone is doing this so it may as well be 1,000,000 gold because you will never see any of it.Having said that I see very little suspicious game play.Most of the "cheating" is poor ping and the results from that.What I see in match and what K/C shows proves its the so called latency that is at fault here.Its beyond bad its almost dishonest.

Uninstalling or disabling the BattlEye service is possible in our game too, people have tried doing this in the past and, in fact, Vostok Games themselves gave them the instructions on how to do this, because of any issues they might have. You can ask @da_capo about this, he was one of the first ones to try and do so when BattlEye was first introduced. We let you disable it client-side because it still runs server-side, even if you uninstall it on your OS.
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19.03.2019, 11:30

It's funny how people keep insisting there are loads of cheats easily available for this game, and that it's soooo easy to get around battleye, but no one has stepped up with any actual evidence. Just seems to be a lot of "here is link to cheat, 100% legit, no virus, honest" or "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy's aunt's boyfriend's cat who is a programmer and can hack anything"

Substantiate your claims or they are meaningless.
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19.03.2019, 17:22

Scaramanga:It's funny how people keep insisting there are loads of cheats easily available for this game, and that it's soooo easy to get around battleye, but no one has stepped up with any actual evidence. Just seems to be a lot of "here is link to cheat, 100% legit, no virus, honest" or "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy's aunt's boyfriend's cat who is a programmer and can hack anything"

Substantiate your claims or they are meaningless.

Lol. So true.
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19.03.2019, 18:05

Scaramanga:It's funny how people keep insisting there are loads of cheats easily available for this game, and that it's soooo easy to get around battleye, but no one has stepped up with any actual evidence. Just seems to be a lot of "here is link to cheat, 100% legit, no virus, honest" or "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy's aunt's boyfriend's cat who is a programmer and can hack anything"

Substantiate your claims or they are meaningless.

If you were the dude who creates the cheats, would you show them how to ban you? ofc not, you would just use the cheats until someone accidently finds out how you do it. Private/self made cheats wont be detected by battleye
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19.03.2019, 19:36

The cheat industry´s a good business nowadays.
But as the playerbase of survarium´s low atm, it won´t be that attractive for cheat devs.
I haven´t played for a while yet and still wait for a reason to return (it´s obvious what reason), but from what I remember, I had strange connection artifacts, as I often played via GigaCube, what made me believe that the enemy always knew where I am.
It also has to do something with players living close to a server. They will always be faster than you and see you first, even if you haven´t seen them milliseconds before

So on one hand the small playerbase gives VG an advantage, having little effort in protecting the game against cheaters
but on the other hand it reflects on the income VG makes.

Having not given the community the freeplay mode and having not developed a functional and adorable Clan System there´s no draw for new players that seek something different or players that joined because of expectations the game will be the successor of ST.
Look how many nicknames users have that´re related to the ST universe. You still think they´re here for PvP?
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19.03.2019, 23:40

Kube:
If you were the dude who creates the cheats, would you show them how to ban you? ofc not, you would just use the cheats until someone accidently finds out how you do it. Private/self made cheats wont be detected by battleye


Well no, obviously not, but my point is there are people on here saying there are cheats available to buy or whatever, but they're not actually providing any evidence that these cheats actually work/get around battleye, making this whole topic meaningless.
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