Why not steam only ?

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08.11.2018, 12:57

Hi VG,

I have one question.

Why don't you put your game on steam only ?
I ask this because when steam consumers see this :
https://steamdb.info/app/355840/graphs/

they simply don't try the game, because they have no idea that the game can be played without steam, so they think that the numbers of players is really low.

I tell this to you because for finding your game, steam is nearly the only way, because nobody talk of you in video games books or else, so your internet website is really not the best way to recruit new players, and splitting the playerbase between steam and non steam is really not good for you.

Sorry for my english, i do my best.
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08.11.2018, 16:24

Because the Russian community is so much bigger than the international community combined and most of them do not use Steam, same as they don't use Facebook and instead use VK, or Yandex instead of Google. You can check how 0.55 update thread has 41 pages on RU forum and just 7 on this one.

Also, in the Russian social pages and websites the game is pretty known, and there's always press releases in Russian on different gaming websites when an update launches. In English I've seen some PCGamer articles from time to time and that's about it.
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08.11.2018, 21:38

ike07:[...] and splitting the playerbase between steam and non steam is really not good for you.[...]

The players dont play together? o.o
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08.11.2018, 21:49

Niruxu:
The players dont play together? o.o

They do.
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09.11.2018, 00:10

Niruxu:
The players dont play together? o.o

Chandrian:
They do.


It's just that non steam players aren't accounted for in the steam stats. The majority of players are non steam - the steam stats show about 600 players daily, but survarium.pro shows about 6000
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09.11.2018, 10:04

I've made an explanation error, my english is not good. I was talking about splitting the statistics of the payerbase.

@Chandrian :
So VG don't need or don't want to have more players in western europe ? Because the only solution to expand is steam.
Why the russian players can't or don't want to use steam ?
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09.11.2018, 17:32

saying russians don't use steam is just plain wrong, dota and csgo are full of russians and those games are steam-only.
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09.11.2018, 17:44

I agree with @ike07 on this. Player base should be unified and presented correctly and properly advertised to new coming players so they can see there is much more players than current steam connected accounts. Maybe RU side PR's could pass a vote through RU community for switching to steam? And yes @Omocher is right. Russians DO use steam a lot. Or maybe VG knows some things on why it is not good to be totally dependent on steam platform :)

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09.11.2018, 18:14

happy shooter:Or maybe VG knows some things on why it is not good to be totally dependent on steam platform :)

Doesn't steam take like 20-30% of income though ? Or that doesn't apply to f2p section ?
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09.11.2018, 19:37

ike07:I've made an explanation error, my english is not good. I was talking about splitting the statistics of the payerbase.

@Chandrian :
So VG don't need or don't want to have more players in western europe ? Because the only solution to expand is steam.
Why the russian players can't or don't want to use steam ?


Ike I'm not Russian I'm French and I really do not want use steam.
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12.11.2018, 16:16

I understand, but it doesn't change the fact that steam is very popular in the world.
Without steam, a small studio video game can't expand on western europe.

- When you go on survarium steam stats, you see a low number of players.

- When you go on the survarium steam hub, you see in recent comments :
"why only 200 players ?"

- When you go to see the recent evaluations :
"no playerbase".

All this because steam users have no idea that the number of players is wrong.
It's really a problem, how many potential players don't try the game because of this ?

- And i could add that when you go in the general chat of the game, we regularly see players saying that the number of players in queue is the total number of players.

But at least, someone from VG could answer us about this problem one day ?
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12.11.2018, 16:32

They will care more about this matter when 1.0 version will be released. ;)
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17.11.2018, 09:34

Hello

Please VG any answer ?
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19.11.2018, 18:37

Told ya.
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22.11.2018, 16:03

ike07:I understand, but it doesn't change the fact that steam is very popular in the world.
Without steam, a small studio video game can't expand on western europe.

- When you go on survarium steam stats, you see a low number of players.

- When you go on the survarium steam hub, you see in recent comments :
"why only 200 players ?"

- When you go to see the recent evaluations :
"no playerbase".

All this because steam users have no idea that the number of players is wrong.
It's really a problem, how many potential players don't try the game because of this ?

- And i could add that when you go in the general chat of the game, we regularly see players saying that the number of players in queue is the total number of players.

But at least, someone from VG could answer us about this problem one day ?

Because VG is simply incapable of or does not want to expand on the other markets.
There were so many suggestions how they can easily increase their income and their playerbases with minimal effort, yet nothing happened because players can't know it as good as VG.
Their western department of the game is 1 guy who barely did his job for years if we compare him as a CM to CMs of other games. VG simply can't or doesn't want to expand, and the Fortnite clone didn't help them.
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23.11.2018, 08:05

Ok, but if VG could answer please.
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26.11.2018, 19:39

Hello,

Any answer please VG ?
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27.11.2018, 11:53

ike07 wrote:Hello,

Any answer please VG ?


The question was answered by many other players :)
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27.11.2018, 12:24

Hello.
So it's one of those answers ?

- Because the Russian community is so much bigger than the international community combined and most of them do not use Steam
- saying russians don't use steam is just plain wrong.
- Player base should be unified and presented correctly and properly advertised to new coming players so they can see there is much more players than current steam connected accounts.
- They will care more about this matter when 1.0 version will be released.
- Because VG is simply incapable of or does not want to expand on the other markets.

Ok.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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27.11.2018, 12:36

Here are some reasons:

1. Many players globally do not use Steam. I am one of them.
2. Steam takes a large percentage of sale profits.
3. Most new players (first time players) download the game via the client.
4. We care about the game's popularity as much now as we ever have or ever will.
5. Expanding into other markets is a priority and can be seen by the various attempts at new server locations.

It's not an inconvenience at all.
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