WHY AM I VERSING 99% BOTS IN "PVP" and why are they so hard?

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13.02.2017, 00:45

i'm seeing only bots at the top of the scores and IF there is any real players they are RARELY EVER able to beat any of the bots in the score
and getting no reward for doing "practice with bots"
it makes absolutely no sense
please remove all bots from pvp and just add rewards to practice

there is multiple games being played everywhere with bots which is ruining the game

there could be 5 games with maybe 3 people in each of those 5 games playing with bots and everyone is wondering where is all the real people?

there should of been 1 game with 15 HUMANS or 2 games with 7-8 HUMANS per day similar to infinite warfare

not 5 or more games per day with bots, specifically unbeatable bots that know you are hiding behind walls despite you were not making any sound and had not killed them yet to trigger any kind of memory


if your game is literally so dead there is no humans to play with then it means you need to advertise the game not fill it with bots, if you advertised on facebook there would be hundreds to thousands of people playing everyday because people love free games that require very little graphics to function

there literally is no point doing any of these bug fix updates when the game matchmaking is absolutely ruined by bots
pvp= PLAYER VS PLAYER
PLAYER=HUMAN

PVE= PLAYER VS ENVIRONMENT
ENVIRONMENT IN A GAME = BOTS/AI!!!!!!
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13.02.2017, 01:32

Seven a.m. morning
Came to take us away
Little men
Big guns
Pointed at our heads
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13.02.2017, 01:36

spinach:Seven a.m. morning
Came to take us away
Little men
Big guns
Pointed at our heads


soad ftw :D

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13.02.2017, 01:38

Möebius:

soad ftw :D

as you said
so true
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13.02.2017, 02:45

godblessmeplease:i'm seeing only bots at the top of the scores and IF there is any real players they are RARELY EVER able to beat any of the bots in the score
and getting no reward for doing "practice with bots"
it makes absolutely no sense
please remove all bots from pvp and just add rewards to practice


https://gyazo.com/3e270b29e8b2576d1a6bf689437a2eb1

or how my friend would say
4RC:
End your life please, thank you.
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13.02.2017, 03:24

I'm not sure I've ever seen a bot at the top of a scoreboard.
Not saying it can't happen but I've never seen it.

I've certainly seen bots beat one player in a team of 3 humans/5 bots.
But bots, in general seem quite predicable to me.

It's been said so many times but once more for those who cannot search.
Bots/AI and their interaction with players are an important part of development for the future of VG. They are part of the PvP experience for a number of reasons - including reducing matchmaking times during the beta phase but mostly for testing AI for upcoming projects.

4RC:
End your life please, thank you.

We used to have 'k' for that, I wonder why it was removed?
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13.02.2017, 09:52

trouble_every_day:I'm not sure I've ever seen a bot at the top of a scoreboard.
Not saying it can't happen but I've never seen it.

It does happen, really.
I play a lot of T4 lately. and have many matches with half or more of the team being bots.
They track through EVERYTHING.
start shooting through high grass were the cannot EVER have seen me.
rounding corners and immediately firing.
in CQC they ALWAYS are successful in melee.
at times I can empty a mag on them and they have NO damage at all (this goes for players too).

Typically in head on scenarios they are predictable, like you say, but there are certainly cases where you get shot and wonder WTF happened. in a match this weekend (Survarium stats does not show the bots unfortunately) I was with another player in a team and the rest was bots, I believe four. One bots did considerably better than we did at first. Simply because the both of us were caught in said scenarios: shooting through high grass, melee, etc. This match a bot led our team.....
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13.02.2017, 10:03

Keza:This match a bot led our team.....

Fair enough. I do know what you mean - sometimes they get the drop on you cos they can be sneaky bastards and it seems that they aren't very principled fighters. They are happy to take advantage of "field intelligence" that the rest of just us don't receive ;o)

I guess the goal of VG (with a view to PvE) should probably be to make the AI tougher overall but definitely work on their ESP.
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13.02.2017, 10:45

Keza:
in CQC they ALWAYS are successful in melee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0RV11AZAHI
Looks like melee kills on bots are doable.
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13.02.2017, 10:46

Sure thing. I do not mind the bots, but sometimes it is frustrating...
They provde ESP for me too at times :-))
You see a bot aim through a wall, so you know someone is there.
On one hand that comes in handy, but on the other it really just kills immersion and gameplay.
...work in progress...
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13.02.2017, 14:39

trouble_every_day:I'm not sure I've ever seen a bot at the top of a scoreboard.
Not saying it can't happen but I've never seen it.

I've certainly seen bots beat one player in a team of 3 humans/5 bots.
But bots, in general seem quite predicable to me.

It's been said so many times but once more for those who cannot search.
Bots/AI and their interaction with players are an important part of development for the future of VG. They are part of the PvP experience for a number of reasons - including reducing matchmaking times during the beta phase but mostly for testing AI for upcoming projects.


We used to have 'k' for that, I wonder why it was removed?


Once had one bot on my team - just one - it got second place after me - so no wonder there are iphone warriors out there who have hard time realising they are not playing tetris.
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13.02.2017, 18:33

This guy must be a joker.
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13.02.2017, 18:40

i killed bots while facing them with melee but when i fire at the bots while they are not looking at me after 3 shots they get insta 180 degree turn and they kill me fast so that s why i like to keep distance from them maybe with a sniper
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13.02.2017, 19:49

Indeed, range is the best thing to have when fighting against a bot.
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13.02.2017, 20:37

Bots suck ass, but sometimes they can do literally this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGlWjIKoY4
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14.02.2017, 02:13

Tanatloc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0RV11AZAHI
Looks like melee kills on bots are doable.

Sure it's doable if the guy has 300 delay and bots need to hit him 5 times before they kill him. Melee is broken against anyone with a high delay. It even seems that if it comes to melee, people with good internet are being punished.
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14.02.2017, 04:37

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =863719981 this bot (Pablo MakeMeFight) was the best warrior in the enemy team, he won my respect hahaha :V
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14.02.2017, 11:00

Bots K/D can depend on various components - guns and armor they use, route they have chosen, luck not being close to enemy players, etc. There can be no difference in their stats (accuracy, reaction time, etc.), to make so different results.
I wonder if it's true, that they are clones with just different clothes and guns. Someone was asking VG about this?
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14.02.2017, 11:02

Tanatloc:Bots K/D can depend on various components - guns and armor they use, route they have chosen, luck not being close to enemy players, etc.

No shit.
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15.02.2017, 01:34

I melee bots with 30 ping to server and 50 delay...
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